You can have matzoh for Passover because it is not fermented. In fact I think it is a required part of the blessings. It can be used in a lot of dishes too, although the only ones I can think of right now have eggs.
Rice and lentils are out for Ashkenazi Jews, but fine for Sephardi Jews. (Your ancestors were probably Ashkenazi, but their reasoning for banning lentils and rice is that it could be in confused with foods that are fermented or been in contact with foods that are fermented.) There are lots of roast vegetables, mushrooms, nuts, vegetable soups,and gluten-free desserts recipes online. Give it a shot. (Ignore Chabad and go for less restrictive Reform instructions. You will never meet Chabad standards.)
My roommate in college held a Seder for some Jewish and Gentile friends and it turned out well (by which I mean G_d did not strike her down for all the mistakes she made.) My roommate was Reform and I think she only got about half of things sorta close to kosher, but she tried. I bought the kosher for Passover wine and got a Haggadah from a Chabad group who were on campus trying to educate the less orthodox Jews. (Then found out my roommate couldn't read the prayers because they were in Hebrew.)
I'm very likely Polish/Hungarian Ashkenazi according to many maternal line distant matches on FamilyTreeDNA for K1a19. From a FB group, I found: K1a19 has been found small numbers in modern-day Iran, Turkey, Armenia, Poland, Hungary, Italy (Siena and the Eastern Italian Alps), and among the Ashkenazim.
Also, this year especially it's to honor the one year anniversary of the death of my friend Lena. When I worked with her, I said I'd do the Passover eating with her since she was my cube neighbor and she declared back then that I should cook for her on Passover since I made such good looking meals and she was getting sick of grazing on matzoh lol
I do tend to try to follow the dietary rules relatively strictly because I figure if you're going to do it, try to get it mostly right (not that I'll be throwing things away or scouring my kitchen or anything). I already purchased a box of matzos and some potato noodles that looked intriguing on the FreshDirect Kosher for Passover store. I also might order this seder plate and eat it on the 2nd night of Passover. https://www.freshdirect.com/pdp.jsp?productId=cat_sederplate&catId=cat_antipasti
It's not confirmed Kosher for Passover but like with what I'm doing, the ingredients are what you're supposed to have. That and I'll have a souvenir platter! I wonder if there's some sort of seder recording I could play...hm...will have to look that up. I might also get some grape juice since I don't do wine.
I'm usually an eggs or avocado on toast breakfast eater so I'll just have it on matzoh for the week. I also have some walnut/cashew butter that was expensive so I need to eat that up too. I already cook with grapeseed and olive oil so I'm already good. Yesterday I grabbed some coconut aminos at Trader Joe's since I realized soy sauce wouldn't be allowed. Not that I anticipate doing much in the way of stir fries since I can't have rice.
For the most part, it might actually be good for me since I'll have to pay attention to what I eat and hence won't tend to nibble on things I shouldn't eat. I might get a few kosher for Passover macaroons for when I'm getting a craving. I'll make simple meals of chicken or fish, potatoes, veggies that aren't on the restricted list, etc. I also have some quinoa that I really do need to use and nowadays, it's allowable (unless you're REALLY strict). I don't eat dairy much at all so I don't have to worry about that mixing with meat. The Kite Hill ricotta that I use as a cream cheese already is almond milk and I'll use coconut milk in my coffee.
This coming weekend I'll make some lists so that I'll be ready. :)
The plate looks very pretty and a lot easier than trying to get everything set up on your own. Do you also have the Cup for Elijah? There are a lot of fancy ones, but I'm sure any nice goblet you already have would work. (I doubt Elijah is to going to show up at the house of some shiksa offering him grape juice anyway.)
I never heard of Miriam's Cup, but sounds like a great idea to recognize the women.
Well, if the juice boxes are Kosher for Passover... Nah, spring for a bottle of Kedem grape juice, it is really good.
By the way, don't invite any Egyptologists if you are going to talk about the Israelites building the pyramids. There was no evidence of any of the Semitic peoples in Egypt during the time when the pyramids were built. The famous pyramids at Giza were built by the pharaohs Khufu, Menkare, and Khafre in the Old Kingdom (2700 -2100 BCE) and were made of stone using the labor of peasants who were idle during the annual flooding of the Nile, (sort of like CCC during the Depression). There are records of the workers going on strike for better pay so they weren't slaves. Skilled workers were employed year round, but the heavy stuff was done by peasants.
Semitic names began appearing in Egyptian records during the New Kingdom (1570 to 1544 BCE), including some high officials and several notes about the problem of foreign nomads roaming around being a nuisance. It also corresponds to a major famine in the area of modern Israel and Palestine, so it fits with the story of Joseph. A group of these people were eventually used as slaves/forced labor to build the new capital city of Pi-Ramses in the delta under Ramsses II who is identified by most Egyptologists and Biblical historians as the pharaoh of the Exodus. Building the city of Ramsses is also mentioned in Exodus 1:11. They used clay brick for most of the city which ties in with the "bricks without straw" stuff.
The whole "we built the pyramids" thing isn't upheld by rabbinical interpretations either, but you will hear it every Passover from Jews who aren't scholars. Sounds more impressive than "we built some city no one has ever heard of." It was actually a major undertaking to build a capital city from nothing.
That is way more than you ever wanted to know, sorry for the lecture. I worked for the Egyptian Section of the museum when I was in college and the Egyptologists and Biblical Historians both threw fits about that myth every Passover.
*modifies Stop & Shop order to put on Kedem* Thanks! I hadn't tried it so I didn't know what to get. I'll probably have to water it down some, though, since I have to do that with most juice as it tastes way too sweet for me. Especially if I'm going to have to drink so much.
Love the history lesson - thank you! I never turn my nose up at learning new things. Yeah, that is a pretty HUGE gap of time between two things. I'm sure it's more impressive to say you built the pyramids but building an entire capital city is also impressive and should be bragged about/educated on. I mean it parallels the lack of knowledge about who really built Washington DC here.
I just remembered I have some Welch's sparkling grape in the fridge. It makes a tolerable substitute for wine, since I don't quite trust myself to drink alone. Humm, maybe I can make a real meal and have some of that with it. Maybe not, just not hungry. I had spinach and mushroom salad last night, but the mushrooms tasted odd. They were fresh and had good texture, just the flavor was unpleasant. (No I dd not pick them myself.) I ate enough that I'd be sick if there was anything wrong: things just don't taste right.
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Rice and lentils are out for Ashkenazi Jews, but fine for Sephardi Jews. (Your ancestors were probably Ashkenazi, but their reasoning for banning lentils and rice is that it could be in confused with foods that are fermented or been in contact with foods that are fermented.) There are lots of roast vegetables, mushrooms, nuts, vegetable soups,and gluten-free desserts recipes online. Give it a shot. (Ignore Chabad and go for less restrictive Reform instructions. You will never meet Chabad standards.)
My roommate in college held a Seder for some Jewish and Gentile friends and it turned out well (by which I mean G_d did not strike her down for all the mistakes she made.) My roommate was Reform and I think she only got about half of things sorta close to kosher, but she tried. I bought the kosher for Passover wine and got a Haggadah from a Chabad group who were on campus trying to educate the less orthodox Jews. (Then found out my roommate couldn't read the prayers because they were in Hebrew.)
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K1a19 has been found small numbers in modern-day Iran, Turkey, Armenia, Poland, Hungary, Italy (Siena and the Eastern Italian Alps), and among the Ashkenazim.
Also, this year especially it's to honor the one year anniversary of the death of my friend Lena. When I worked with her, I said I'd do the Passover eating with her since she was my cube neighbor and she declared back then that I should cook for her on Passover since I made such good looking meals and she was getting sick of grazing on matzoh lol
I do tend to try to follow the dietary rules relatively strictly because I figure if you're going to do it, try to get it mostly right (not that I'll be throwing things away or scouring my kitchen or anything). I already purchased a box of matzos and some potato noodles that looked intriguing on the FreshDirect Kosher for Passover store. I also might order this seder plate and eat it on the 2nd night of Passover.
https://www.freshdirect.com/pdp.jsp?productId=cat_sederplate&catId=cat_antipasti
It's not confirmed Kosher for Passover but like with what I'm doing, the ingredients are what you're supposed to have. That and I'll have a souvenir platter! I wonder if there's some sort of seder recording I could play...hm...will have to look that up. I might also get some grape juice since I don't do wine.
I'm usually an eggs or avocado on toast breakfast eater so I'll just have it on matzoh for the week. I also have some walnut/cashew butter that was expensive so I need to eat that up too. I already cook with grapeseed and olive oil so I'm already good. Yesterday I grabbed some coconut aminos at Trader Joe's since I realized soy sauce wouldn't be allowed. Not that I anticipate doing much in the way of stir fries since I can't have rice.
For the most part, it might actually be good for me since I'll have to pay attention to what I eat and hence won't tend to nibble on things I shouldn't eat. I might get a few kosher for Passover macaroons for when I'm getting a craving. I'll make simple meals of chicken or fish, potatoes, veggies that aren't on the restricted list, etc. I also have some quinoa that I really do need to use and nowadays, it's allowable (unless you're REALLY strict). I don't eat dairy much at all so I don't have to worry about that mixing with meat. The Kite Hill ricotta that I use as a cream cheese already is almond milk and I'll use coconut milk in my coffee.
This coming weekend I'll make some lists so that I'll be ready. :)
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I guess just laying out extra juice boxes would be rather crude ;)
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Well, if the juice boxes are Kosher for Passover... Nah, spring for a bottle of Kedem grape juice, it is really good.
By the way, don't invite any Egyptologists if you are going to talk about the Israelites building the pyramids. There was no evidence of any of the Semitic peoples in Egypt during the time when the pyramids were built. The famous pyramids at Giza were built by the pharaohs Khufu, Menkare, and Khafre in the Old Kingdom (2700 -2100 BCE) and were made of stone using the labor of peasants who were idle during the annual flooding of the Nile, (sort of like CCC during the Depression). There are records of the workers going on strike for better pay so they weren't slaves. Skilled workers were employed year round, but the heavy stuff was done by peasants.
Semitic names began appearing in Egyptian records during the New Kingdom (1570 to 1544 BCE), including some high officials and several notes about the problem of foreign nomads roaming around being a nuisance. It also corresponds to a major famine in the area of modern Israel and Palestine, so it fits with the story of Joseph. A group of these people were eventually used as slaves/forced labor to build the new capital city of Pi-Ramses in the delta under Ramsses II who is identified by most Egyptologists and Biblical historians as the pharaoh of the Exodus. Building the city of Ramsses is also mentioned in Exodus 1:11. They used clay brick for most of the city which ties in with the "bricks without straw" stuff.
The whole "we built the pyramids" thing isn't upheld by rabbinical interpretations either, but you will hear it every Passover from Jews who aren't scholars. Sounds more impressive than "we built some city no one has ever heard of." It was actually a major undertaking to build a capital city from nothing.
That is way more than you ever wanted to know, sorry for the lecture. I worked for the Egyptian Section of the museum when I was in college and the Egyptologists and Biblical Historians both threw fits about that myth every Passover.
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Love the history lesson - thank you! I never turn my nose up at learning new things. Yeah, that is a pretty HUGE gap of time between two things. I'm sure it's more impressive to say you built the pyramids but building an entire capital city is also impressive and should be bragged about/educated on. I mean it parallels the lack of knowledge about who really built Washington DC here.
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I just remembered I have some Welch's sparkling grape in the fridge. It makes a tolerable substitute for wine, since I don't quite trust myself to drink alone. Humm, maybe I can make a real meal and have some of that with it. Maybe not, just not hungry. I had spinach and mushroom salad last night, but the mushrooms tasted odd. They were fresh and had good texture, just the flavor was unpleasant. (No I dd not pick them myself.) I ate enough that I'd be sick if there was anything wrong: things just don't taste right.
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